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| Maks|Di2 | оказывается Josm всё так же капризен к версии Java, то ему раньше все JRE были слишком старые, а теперь оказывается подавай из архивов только старую версию | 07:41 |
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| Zverik | Maks|Di2: это ненормально, какая версия не подходит? Latest работает? | 07:53 |
| Maks|Di2 | не работает на 1.8, асудя по каждому 3-му багу на трекере josm-а, они считают, что java-1.8 плохая, просто по определению | 08:03 |
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| freeExec | они гонят, уже полгода работаю на 1.8 | 08:04 |
| Maks|Di2 | у меня вот крошится инсталяция с нуля | 08:04 |
| Maks|Di2 | когда просто мигрировал со всеми настройками, работала как-то | 08:04 |
| freeExec | инсталяция? чего | 08:04 |
| Maks|Di2 | ОС с нуля, профиля старого нет, всё чистое | 08:05 |
| freeExec | причём тут крошение ос и жосм | 08:06 |
| Maks|Di2 | не ОС крошится, а JOSM в консоль ругается на тонну ошибок | 08:06 |
| freeExec | например каких? | 08:07 |
| freeExec | чего гадать-то на кофейной гуще | 08:07 |
| Maks|Di2 | ERROR: java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg.JPEGImageReader.initReaderIDs(Ljava/lang/Class;Ljava/lang/Class;Ljava/lang/Class;)V. Cause: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg.JPEGImageReader.initReaderIDs(Ljava/lang/Class;Ljava/lang/Class;Ljava/lang/Class;)V | 08:08 |
| andrewsh | ну у тебя ж зависимости битые | 08:09 |
| freeExec | в окружении прописаны разные JAVA_HOME=c:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.7.0_25 | 08:10 |
| Maks|Di2 | это одинаково на всех версиях java-1.8, включая оракловую | 08:10 |
| Maks|Di2 | ну и различные сетевые операции рандомно не работают, но почему то молча и без ругани, например список плагинов не скачивается | 08:13 |
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| andrewsh | Zverik: http://orava.sme.sk/c/7586379/transsibirskou-magistralou-napriec-ruskom.html#map | 11:51 |
| andrewsh | мапки юзают :) | 11:51 |
| andrewsh | не был копирайт, правда, но по моему напоминанию проставили | 11:52 |
| andrewsh | только © не туда прилепили :) | 11:52 |
| freeExec | а что есть "Prispievatelia" | 11:59 |
| freeExec | представители чтоли | 12:00 |
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| andrewsh | freeExec: «contributors» | 12:10 |
| andrewsh | т.е. те, кто «приспевают» | 12:10 |
| andrewsh | contribution = prispievok | 12:10 |
| freeExec | фи, не хочу быть приспивком, толи с пивком, толи плювком | 12:14 |
| freeExec | картинка недели - в Англии зелёная трава | 12:18 |
| andrewsh | freeExec: приспевок же | 12:35 |
| andrewsh | приспевок — это то, что ты вносишь | 12:35 |
| andrewsh | вклад, т.е. | 12:35 |
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| Zverik | хм. Xxzme/d1g вылез в tagging@ | 13:32 |
| Zverik | поссорился с абсолютно всеми, включая единственного собеседника, который его поддерживал | 13:32 |
| Zverik | и ещё он предлагает ref:M10=yes вместо ref=M10 | 13:34 |
| freeExec | это типа вместо z;v;b | 13:35 |
| Zverik | ага | 13:36 |
| freeExec | оно вроде бы и логично, но для рандомного тексте не катит | 13:36 |
| Zverik | freeExec: логично до того момента, как попытаешься использовать эту схему в postgis или шейпах | 13:37 |
| freeExec | а в чём его там поддержали? | 13:38 |
| Zverik | да уже ни в чём. Пришёл Ричард и показал, что у него есть банхаммер. Пришёл Фредерик и сказал, что ключи и значения смешивать нельзя | 13:38 |
| freeExec | :) | 13:39 |
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| Hind | А я вот тоже однажды | 13:49 |
| Hind | Придумал схему адресации на отношениях, где в role был номер дома. | 13:49 |
| Hind | Но потом она показалась слишком натянутой в семантическом смысле | 13:49 |
| Hind | «Этот полигон присутствует на Котовской улице в качестве №7» | 13:50 |
| Hind | Ну наркоманство же | 13:50 |
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| Zverik | есть ли тут те, кто не придумывал таких отношений? :) | 14:10 |
| Zverik | логичным выводом из такого становится раскрытие ролей в систему тегов | 14:11 |
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| andrewsh | Zverik: оно сумасшедшее | 14:15 |
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| andrewsh | Zverik: d1g сумасшедшее, в смысле | 14:19 |
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| Zverik | ага | 14:26 |
| andrewsh | 14:08:28 <karavanjo> 12:01:50 - andrewsh: ещё этот dkiselev со своим ломаным английским | 14:27 |
| andrewsh | 14:08:48 <karavanjo> спроси его по-русски. | 14:27 |
| andrewsh | ну да, в tagging@ его по-русски ещё спрашивать | 14:27 |
| andrewsh | да и вообще, может, я не говорю по-русски :) | 14:28 |
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| Hind | Я вообще не знаю, чем плоха система отдельного отношения на каждый адрес. | 14:58 |
| Hind | Адресованных объекто в осме всего порядка 50 миллионов | 14:59 |
| Hind | Это вообще ни о чём в масштабах БД. | 14:59 |
| freeExec | в кропотливости | 14:59 |
| Hind | Пф | 14:59 |
| Hind | Вопрос инструментария | 14:59 |
| Komzpa|work | веи-то создавать не сложно | 15:00 |
| freeExec | и получим в итогии коллекции | 15:00 |
| Hind | iD вон в режиме хомячка при вводе адреса сейчас заполняет теги, а мог бы заполнять отношения. Разницы для пользователя никакой. | 15:00 |
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| freeExec | вот если использовать только для многоадресных | 15:01 |
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| Hind | «Котярная адресация» | 15:03 |
| Hind | :3 | 15:03 |
| freeExec | котярсхема | 15:03 |
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| andrewsh | котосхема | 15:06 |
| Hind | Можно сделать новый тип объекта в API 0.7 | 15:06 |
| Hind | address | 15:06 |
| Hind | Может включать в себя любые другие типы объектов, кроме address. Теги использовать обычные addr:* | 15:08 |
| freeExec | и зачем? | 15:08 |
| Hind | Просто так :3 | 15:08 |
| freeExec | аа, тогда можно | 15:08 |
| Hind | Because we can | 15:08 |
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| Hind | А в базу по факту класть отношение type=address | 15:09 |
| Hind | PROFIT | 15:09 |
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| freeExec | хм... нам нужно новое отношение highway, и тогда нам не строшны разрывы | 15:11 |
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| freeExec | гы http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=479463#p479463 | 15:25 |
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| ooprizrakoo | блин | 22:56 |
| ooprizrakoo | как с контуперными игрушками | 22:56 |
| ooprizrakoo | ещё чуть-чуть и ложусь | 22:56 |
| ooprizrakoo | ога | 22:56 |
| ooprizrakoo | прошло два часа | 22:57 |
| ooprizrakoo | сижу, рисую | 22:57 |
| ooprizrakoo | нарисовал полигон "космос" мчсовский со всеми прибамбасами | 22:57 |
| ooprizrakoo | ностальгия | 22:58 |
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