#osm-ru.2015-01-21.log

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Maks|Di2оказывается Josm всё так же капризен к версии Java, то ему раньше все JRE были слишком старые, а теперь оказывается подавай из архивов только старую версию07:41
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ZverikMaks|Di2: это ненормально, какая версия не подходит? Latest работает?07:53
Maks|Di2не работает на 1.8, асудя по каждому 3-му багу на трекере josm-а, они считают, что java-1.8 плохая, просто по определению08:03
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freeExecони гонят, уже полгода работаю на 1.808:04
Maks|Di2у меня вот крошится инсталяция с нуля08:04
Maks|Di2когда просто мигрировал со всеми настройками, работала как-то08:04
freeExecинсталяция? чего08:04
Maks|Di2ОС с нуля, профиля старого нет, всё чистое08:05
freeExecпричём тут крошение ос и жосм08:06
Maks|Di2не ОС крошится, а JOSM в консоль ругается на тонну ошибок08:06
freeExecнапример каких?08:07
freeExecчего гадать-то на кофейной гуще08:07
Maks|Di2ERROR: java.util.concurrent.ExecutionException: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg.JPEGImageReader.initReaderIDs(Ljava/lang/Class;Ljava/lang/Class;Ljava/lang/Class;)V. Cause: java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: com.sun.imageio.plugins.jpeg.JPEGImageReader.initReaderIDs(Ljava/lang/Class;Ljava/lang/Class;Ljava/lang/Class;)V08:08
andrewshну у тебя ж зависимости битые08:09
freeExecв окружении прописаны разные JAVA_HOME=c:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.7.0_2508:10
Maks|Di2это одинаково на всех версиях java-1.8, включая оракловую08:10
Maks|Di2ну и различные сетевые операции рандомно не работают, но почему то молча и без ругани, например список плагинов не скачивается08:13
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andrewshZverik: http://orava.sme.sk/c/7586379/transsibirskou-magistralou-napriec-ruskom.html#map11:51
andrewshмапки юзают :)11:51
andrewshне был копирайт, правда, но по моему напоминанию проставили11:52
andrewshтолько © не туда прилепили :)11:52
freeExecа что есть "Prispievatelia"11:59
freeExecпредставители чтоли12:00
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andrewshfreeExec: «contributors»12:10
andrewshт.е. те, кто «приспевают»12:10
andrewshcontribution = prispievok12:10
freeExecфи, не хочу быть приспивком, толи с пивком, толи плювком12:14
freeExecкартинка недели - в Англии зелёная трава12:18
andrewshfreeExec: приспевок же12:35
andrewshприспевок — это то, что ты вносишь12:35
andrewshвклад, т.е.12:35
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Zverikхм. Xxzme/d1g вылез в tagging@13:32
Zverikпоссорился с абсолютно всеми, включая единственного собеседника, который его поддерживал13:32
Zverikи ещё он предлагает ref:M10=yes вместо ref=M1013:34
freeExecэто типа вместо z;v;b13:35
Zverikага13:36
freeExecоно вроде бы и логично, но для рандомного тексте не катит13:36
ZverikfreeExec: логично до того момента, как попытаешься использовать эту схему в postgis или шейпах13:37
freeExecа в чём его там поддержали?13:38
Zverikда уже ни в чём. Пришёл Ричард и показал, что у него есть банхаммер. Пришёл Фредерик и сказал, что ключи и значения смешивать нельзя13:38
freeExec:)13:39
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HindА я вот тоже однажды13:49
HindПридумал схему адресации на отношениях, где в role был номер дома.13:49
HindНо потом она показалась слишком натянутой в семантическом смысле13:49
Hind«Этот полигон присутствует на Котовской улице в качестве №7»13:50
HindНу наркоманство же13:50
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Zverikесть ли тут те, кто не придумывал таких отношений? :)14:10
Zverikлогичным выводом из такого становится раскрытие ролей в систему тегов14:11
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andrewshZverik: оно сумасшедшее14:15
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andrewshZverik: d1g сумасшедшее, в смысле14:19
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Zverikага14:26
andrewsh14:08:28 <karavanjo> 12:01:50 - andrewsh: ещё этот dkiselev со своим ломаным английским14:27
andrewsh14:08:48 <karavanjo> спроси его по-русски.14:27
andrewshну да, в tagging@ его по-русски ещё спрашивать14:27
andrewshда и вообще, может, я не говорю по-русски :)14:28
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HindЯ вообще не знаю, чем плоха система отдельного отношения на каждый адрес.14:58
HindАдресованных объекто в осме всего порядка 50 миллионов14:59
HindЭто вообще ни о чём в масштабах БД.14:59
freeExecв кропотливости14:59
HindПф14:59
HindВопрос инструментария14:59
Komzpa|workвеи-то создавать не сложно15:00
freeExecи получим в итогии коллекции15:00
HindiD вон в режиме хомячка при вводе адреса сейчас заполняет теги, а мог бы заполнять отношения. Разницы для пользователя никакой.15:00
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freeExecвот если использовать только для многоадресных15:01
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Hind«Котярная адресация»15:03
Hind:315:03
freeExecкотярсхема15:03
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andrewshкотосхема15:06
HindМожно сделать новый тип объекта в API 0.715:06
Hindaddress15:06
HindМожет включать в себя любые другие типы объектов, кроме address. Теги использовать обычные addr:*15:08
freeExecи зачем?15:08
HindПросто так :315:08
freeExecаа, тогда можно15:08
HindBecause we can15:08
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HindА в базу по факту класть отношение type=address15:09
HindPROFIT15:09
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freeExecхм... нам нужно новое отношение highway, и тогда нам не строшны разрывы15:11
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freeExecгы http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=479463#p47946315:25
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ooprizrakooблин22:56
ooprizrakooкак с контуперными игрушками22:56
ooprizrakooещё чуть-чуть и ложусь22:56
ooprizrakooога22:56
ooprizrakooпрошло два часа22:57
ooprizrakooсижу, рисую22:57
ooprizrakooнарисовал полигон "космос" мчсовский со всеми прибамбасами22:57
ooprizrakooностальгия22:58
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